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    I'm currently working with a company that has me testing and reviewing a few of their products. My first round is going to be a tactical shovel and a couple tactical pens. We are brainstorming ideas for how to beat the crap out of these products on video to show how strong they are. We are already talking about running them over with a truck and shooting them with a rifle. Does anybody have any other ideas as to how we can test these products?

  • #2
    Perhaps if you offered some incentive, for members to help you? Like maybe a contest, for those same products your testing? Personally I like doing my own testing without the pressure of a company wanting obvious, good reviews. But that's just me
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    • #3
      I already warned them that the review will only be as good as the product reflects and they seemed fine with that. They are pretty confident in their products.

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      • #4
        Sounds like you're going to be pretty tough on the products. Make sure to keep us posted on which ones hold up to all that. I still need a folding shovel for my BOB!

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        • #5
          Yeah, I tried a folding shovel a few months ago and it was junk. It didn't make it 15 minutes before the spade bent. This one appears to be much tougher and more functional. i will keep you posted.

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          • #6
            How about chopping branches, bricks, stomping whole length into hard ground and driving it into a tree with a mallet, things you would need it for out in the bush? Looking forward to seeing it!

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            • #7
              Yeah, I plan to do all that stuff. I think the videos will be done filming this weekend. The company will do the editing, so they probably will not be live on the website for another week or so. I will post my findings on here after I am done with all the tests.

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              • #8
                Okay, I just tested the tactical shovel by ABP Tactical. The shovel works very well and it is a few 29 inches long. It works well as a hoe as well. The saw blade is a bit short to be functional, but the straight edge is great for trimming limbs off of poles. The glass breaker shattered double pane glass easily. It has a flathead and phillips screwdriver along with a razor edge with which I can shave. There is a nice ferro rod in the end along with a compass. I beat the piss out of this thing. I threw it at a board about 20 times like a hatchet. I ran over it twice with my truck. I leaned it on a rest and put my full weight in the middle of the handle (and I'm a big guy). I shot it with a 45 caliber handgun. It held up against every single test. My only complaint is that the saw blade was not very functional, but I would easily say it is the best quality tactical shovel I have ever seen. I was given one a few months ago and it broke the first time I used it. I would highly recommend this product. Moving on to the tactical pens next.

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                • Megan Stewart
                  Megan Stewart commented
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                  Thanks Ryan, this is good information to have.

              • #9
                Tested the tactical pen and survival pen from ABP Tactical. The self defense points penetrated both a soft target and hard target just fine. The glass breaker shattered double pane glass fine. The tac pen took several blows from a hammer before bending. The led flashlight on the survival pen was submerged in water and still worked fine. It was frozen in a block of ice overnight and still was shining. There are a lot of good tactical pens on the market right now, but I would say these are on par with the best. No complaints.

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                • #10
                  So I did a search and found this ABP (always be prepared) tactical pen https://www.amazon.com/Defense-Tacti.../dp/B00SQRMK5M and as it turns out I have two of these in black and brushed grey.

                  While the pen is fine I can't give it a positive recommendation specifically because of the pointed tip on the clip end of the pen. The most powerful technique one can use with tactical pens require that you put your thumb on the flat end of a tac pen like this one https://www.amazon.com/Hoffman-Richt...ical+pen&psc=1


                  Last edited by Skills b4 Gear; 02-17-2017, 09:02 PM.
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                  • Megan Stewart
                    Megan Stewart commented
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                    I have to agree with you about the need for the rounded end. I'm so used to using my thumb on the end that having one that is pointed means I'd probably end up hurting myself out of habit.

                • #11
                  I realize that you do not have quite as much power gripping it without your thumb on the end, but I do not know if I would ever hold a tactical pen that way. I've done some practice with these, and I am much more accurate holding the pen like you would hold a knife for a thrusting motion. I've never been a fan of holding it backhanded to come down from overhead. I seem to be less accurate that way and it gets really awkward trying to strike any target below shoulder level.

                  It is also much easier for an opponent to block a strike that comes down from overhead versus a forward thrust. If your attacker has a knife, coming down from overhead exposes your vital areas much more than a forward thrust. That may be against traditional tactical pen methods, but it works best for me. I am a tall guy and have plenty of strength, so I would have no problem putting somebody down with a forward thrust not using my thumb. I like going for specific pressure points, so accuracy is important for me. Thoughts?

                  Also, the survival pen by ABP has a flat end whereas the tactical pen does not.

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                  • #12
                    If you go to my original post here http://www.myprepperforum.com/forum/...-tactical-pens there is a video on basic techniques with a tac pen. Here are 2 more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHgENdGr8TA and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlx87oOdsJE In both you can see how the self defense specialist uses the "Reverse Grip" as his basic and most effective hold for the weapon.

                    I'm not going to argue technique but as a instructor myself, I most agree that this way of holding the pen is most destructive, in it's execution. STOPPING POWER as discussed on the videos, is what it's all about. Unlike a blade which I to agree would be less effective in this type a grip, the tac pen was made for it especially when considering novice users. Now if one is experienced with impact weapons such as the yawara or kobutan then the ABP pen would work for those users but since most of the members here have little to no selfdefense experience, I stand by my non recommendation
                    JUST CAUSE THEY SAY IT DON'T MAKE IT TRUE And if it comes from Info Wars or Alex Jones, it's probably BULLSHIT!

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                    Know the FACTS b4 going off half cocked

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                    • #13
                      Fair enough. I am not an instructor and can only speak to what works for me. I'm sure part of my comfort is my experience with knives and my size. I did note in my review that tac pens are always more effective with proper training.

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                      • #14
                        I understand and accept that which is right for you, is a personal decision. I tend to speak in an open forum, to the majority of members under the most general of circumstances. I just feel as though I reach more minds that way? But perhaps that's just the BS I use, to keep contributing in the style I have chosen? Who knows? I will however ALWAYS post that which I truly believe, without reservation or for the purpose self ingratiation. My desire is to help others and nothing else. Thanks for your acknowledgement
                        JUST CAUSE THEY SAY IT DON'T MAKE IT TRUE And if it comes from Info Wars or Alex Jones, it's probably BULLSHIT!

                        Steve Bannon in his own words, speaks on Breitbart and the alt right http://www.theinvestigativefund.org/..._nationalists/

                        Know the FACTS b4 going off half cocked

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